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(Non) Parents Just Don't Understand

By Daddy Daze on Monday, March 10, 10:23 am EDT

Daddy Daze

Last year, I wrote about an experience I had as an ignorant, childless young man. While standing in line at the drug store, I cringed as young mother talked with a friend while her kid called for her attention over and over and over again. "OH MY GOD WILL YOU JUST ANSWER THAT FREAKING KID?!?" I thought.

I walked out of there thinking, "What a bad mom. Why would she ignore her kid?"

Today, I know who was at fault in that scenario: Me. Well, not at fault. Just ignorant.

I've tried to explain parenting to non-parents before, but I know I was unsuccessful. Because there is no explaining it. You've simply got to be a parent to comprehend parenthood. Period.

Most people know the theoretical basics:

  • Sleep deprivation
  • Less free time
  • Pee, poo, etc.

Those things certainly happen (especially number 3), but that's just the tip of a Titanic-class iceburg.

The Responsibility

I'm directly responsible for a human being's survival on the planet. Let me say that again: It's up to me to keep her alive. Literally.

Her education, personality, happiness, adult relationships, tendency to be a nerd ... all me (at least initially).

The Love

Think of all the people you'll meet in your life. Your parents, co-workers, boyfriends/girlfriends, the guy who delivers your Kung Pao Chicken. You know thousands of people. You like several of them. You love few. The ones you love earned your affection over time.

Not so with kids. I loved Grace more dearly than any other person I've ever met the instant she entered the world. I mean in that exact nanosecond she leapt to the top of the list. I've known my wife for 10 years. I've known my parents for nearly 40. She shot past all of them in less time than it takes you to blink your eyes.

I can describe that kind of love to you, but unless you've been there, you won't really get it.

I certainly didn't get it before I had kids. There were times I thought I did but, man, I had no idea. Occasionally I'm confronted with the ignorance of non-parents, and I just have to smile and nod.

My sister recently visited one of my old haunts with her boyfriend. She was telling me about their fun evening ...

"...So Chris said -- you know Chris..."

"No, I don't. Who's Chris?"

"The bartender!"

"Wh -- how am I supposed to know the bartender?"

"Isn't that your hangout?"

"Oh my God," I said. "Like 8 years ago. I don't hang out anymore."

"Oh," she said.

That's okay. We're just living on the same planet, but different worlds.

Last week, I read a post on The Unofficial Apple Weblog* that had me laughing. Recently, Apple announced that people could rent movies from its popular iTunes Store. Several parents -- myself included -- complained about the 24-hour time limit (A rented movie must be viewed within 24 hours of the first time you click "Play" before it disappears). "I just don't have time," we said.

"I hardly see why Apple (or any company) should have to answer for parents' inability to get their kids to stay in bed," the author wrote. She also referred to parents complaining about the limitation as "The Mamfia," and said, "I appreciate that finding time to watch something can be difficult for parents...."

No, you don't.

But I can't get angry. The author is no different than young Dave, annoyed with the mom in the drug store. Call it Pre-Parenthood Ignorance. Once you're in The Club, you get it.

Until then, you absolutely do not.

*Full disclosure: I write for The Unofficial Apple Weblog.

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Member Comments
There is a spectrum...
3/10/2008 at 11:15 am
Can I raise my hand on behalf of the non-parents who do get it? Lots of us do. As an aunt of a number of niece/nephews, I am willing to join the picket line against the 24-hour limit on movies.

I sympathize with the frustration with armchair parenting. But don't label us all as clueless. We find it a little insulting--and you might need us to babysit one day. :-)


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DJMimi
"The Club" gets tiresome...
4/26/2008 at 5:24 pm
I agree. As a non-mom (but step mom and perhaps soon to be adopted mom) and elementary school teacher (plus ex-youth counselor and babysitter), I know, Oh, just a little bit about kids and I certainly respect that awesome amount of work it is. I am , however, tired of hearing the NON-STOP complaining from Moms who then follow up with a version of "you just wouldn't understand." Hey, we are over populated as a people - no one forced you to have kids - you made the choice, how about accepting the responsibility for that choice and stop the Martyr bit?


Ei's picture
Ei
I dunno Dave, I am kind of
3/10/2008 at 12:04 pm
I dunno Dave, I am kind of tired of parents demanding special treatment as if having children is some sort of disorder. I'm a single mom, with one very high needs child and I know enough to not rent a movie I can't sit and watch either a) with the kids in the room or b) after they are tucked in asleep. I don't take many calls much when they are awake either. Part of the sacrafice of parenting. And you well know the benefits are tremendous.


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Jennifer
Agreement
3/10/2008 at 12:28 pm
I totally get what you are saying. I agree completely.


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LilSis
Try to understand...
3/10/2008 at 1:41 pm
Ok...I try to understand. And I try to never judge. I'm a seasoned Aunt, with a great 9yr old sis.--I've seen the ugly side. I had a wonderful conversation with Big Sis the other day. (Big sis is 28, mother of 3, ages 1.5-6, Eldest is Autistic) I called her, receiving a rude greeting for disturbing her hectic day. My usual response, to avoid arguement, is an annoying, excessively giddy, "But I LOVE YOU!", along with an "I misses you!" (Imitating the 3yr old.) I spend the next five minutes, defending my lifestyle as a single, college student with two jobs, before realizing the way out of her bad mood was for me to admit that there's no way in *^$# that I would be able to function as a stay at home mom of 3. DUH! You mean she didn't know this? I thought I'd already made that obvious. She seemed shocked that I admitted it. I've got some major respect for all parents, and big love for my nephews and neices. But be nice to me, as another blogger posted...you will need a babysitter. Or I swear I will buy them the LOUDEST possible toy I can find and get them hyped up on chocolate pre-return. :-) Just because I don't want to "join the club" yet, doesn't mean I'm ignorant. I'm smart enough to know that's one position I can't be successful at yet...


Anonymous's picture
Anonymous
Nope, no way
3/10/2008 at 3:08 pm
As much as I would like to agree that non parents can even slightly understand what it is like to be parents, I have to whole heartedly disagree. I was once one a non parent who really believed that I have at least an inkling what it was like to parent. I had babysat A LOT (for days and days on end for parents out of town), I had a lot of stress in my life with endless demands. I spent a lot of time around children (worked in childcare, schools, etc). Yet when I became an parent I realized that NO ONE, NO ONE can comprehend the totality of parenting unless you are one, day after day, month after month, year after year. I have had several (life long) friendships fail because I no longer had the time, energy (or interest, honestly) to be available to them in the ways that they expected. They couldn't understand why I didn't return their phone calls for WEEKS (hmmmm, get a shower this week or listen to friend update on flavor of the week boyfriend or couch shopping). I have a few ex friends that REALLY resent how I changed.....I had to. There was not a choice. Ultimately, being too tired and drained to even BREATH made sustaining friendships hard enough, and I just found the differences in parent versus non parent lifestyle sadly too much work to deal with. At least when my babies were little. Even now, friendships with non parents are difficult (what, you can't go out to dinner just because your son was named child of the week on Friday and you must follow him around all weekend with a camera and notebook and be ready on Monday with a full poster and journal complete with photos even though your printer is out of ink, you don't have a poster board or journal, oh and cupcakes to bake for his sixteen classmates one of which is gluten intolerant and don't forget that your daughter's only tennis shoes are suddenly too small and she has a jogathon on Monday for which you have to hit up the entire neighborhood to sponsor her and laundry and groceries and house cleaning and lessons and doctors appointments and gifts for parties and homework and somewhere sleep and why again can't you go out for dinner? You need to sleep?). A non parent can be wonderfully empathetic and compassionate and truly wish to understand. I don't think one can though, anymore than a fish can understand what it is like to be a bird.


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psych mom
They get it sometimes, it's just not the same...
3/10/2008 at 9:15 pm
Even though I agree that non-parents do get it sometimes I'd have to say I don't think they get it in the same way parents do, unless you are a primary caretaker and not necessarily the parent. I don't think you were trying to make anybody feel bad, it is just a fact. It is more or less the same as not understanding the logistics of boating and loving it if you don't own a boat yourself. I totally understand that once you go through the experience you really get it, since I've had the opportunity to talk to others who are not parents and they cannot relate completely. It's just a matter of going through the experience..... Check out my blog: http://www.psychmom.typepad.com/psychmomreflections. Maribel


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L. B.
Non-parents don't get
3/13/2008 at 10:55 am
Non-parents don't get parents, but the funny thing is that once non-parents become parents, they completely don't get non-parents any more, and even worse the parents think that the entire world should suddenly get what they now get (but did not get prior to becoming parents.)


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sandra
non-parents
3/21/2008 at 5:05 pm
I completely agree! Sometimes you get non-parents who think they can tell you a thing or two about raising kids just because they babysat a friends or relatives kid a few times but I always tell them it's not the same when it's your own kid.


Barb's picture
Barb
Your club is offensive
6/16/2008 at 3:26 am
Well let me tell you about "The Club." You're not all sane or kind or smart or mentally fit or polite or empathetic or wise or educated or clean or strong, or unselfish or free of baggage or responsible or respectable or capable of seeing the big picture. There is an abundance of non parents taking care of children who were born to those of you who supposedly "get it" because you either gave birth or adopted a child. Many of us non parents belong to churches, foster care programs, hospitals, shelters and so on. We spend our time our understanding, attention, praise and love trying to undo the damage the parents of 'the club' have inflicted on their own children (physical, emotional and sexual abuse, addiction, abandonment, etc.). Long before you have a child you should already be what a child needs you to be. Stop whining about the work of raising a child and stop beating your chest just because you procreated. Rabbits do it better anyway. I found your article offensive and lacking research. Your lack of respect for non parents is revolting. Very irresponsible reporting. And let's not even start talking about the tax breaks.


Rex's picture
Rex
If people in the "Club"
6/20/2008 at 12:16 pm
If people in the "Club" don't want non parent's advice..then stop talking about your kids all the dam time!!!


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B3Mom
You can't even understand the "Club"
8/1/2008 at 10:30 pm
The thing about being in the club is that we are AWARE that it is extremely difficult to be directly responsible for a human and what that human ends up being. Parents are not looking for sympathy and most of the time, advice from non-parents is NOT SOLICITED. We do not complain about this responsibility but just like the non-parents like to vent and moan about your boss, your Friday night loser date, the shoes you HAVE to go to the mall and return because they are a smidge too tight, we would like the opportunity to vent, too. Non-parents having an opinion on this issue is just the point, YOU DON'T GET THE RIGHT TO AN OPINION. Babysitting, or working in a daycare, none of that matters because when you have a child (or three) your brain becomes a different tool altogether. You don't use it in the same way and we are pretty much aware that it does not make you a rocket scientist. I highly doubt any parent is standing on a soap box saying "look what I have made". They would rather be taking a shower or reading a book. Non parents, off to your Friday night date.


Caite's picture
Caite
Oh dear
1/26/2009 at 6:12 pm
What a thoroughly sanctimonious thread. I don't recall my parent's generation behaving as if they deserved some exalted, holy status because they chose to reproduce. Maybe you should examine some of your own attitudes before condemning all non-parents.


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RJ
I sympathize
4/13/2009 at 11:30 am
I do sympathize but I don't pretend to understand :). My wife and I have chosen not to have children, so I guess we'll never quite understand. The only *real* frustration we ever have with children is when they're brought to the movies or nice restaurants, etc.


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Lisa
I find it offensive that
5/5/2009 at 7:29 pm
I find it offensive that some parents think that no one can understand their plight as parents. Well, guess what we do understand. Those who say that you have to be a parent to understand is just making excuses for you inability to control your children. I have been the primary caretaker of my nephew since he was 2 and so I do understand. I do get it and I still get offended when someone just thinks I don't cause I have never given birth. I have come to realize that those who say that is just wanting to make excuses and just want to complain. Those who are not parents are on the outside and often times can see the picture more clearly than you can. You just don't want to admit. And remember, I have been the primary caretaker of a child. I have taken care of all that comes with raising a child. So I don't want to hear how I don't understand. Its offensive and meant to hurt. Period


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