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Home Alone

By Notes From the Trenches on Tuesday, April 8, 10:45 am EDT

Last week I heard about this story of a woman who allowed her 9 yr old son to ride the subway alone and make his way home to their apartment. Ironically enough, I was in New York City at the time.

At first I was aghast. My goodness, who in their right mind would ever let a 9 yr old out of their sight in the dangerous city? Much less allow him to navigate the subway system. But then I read the article the mother wrote for The Sun in which she explains herself:

"Parents are in the grip of anxiety and when you're anxious, you're totally warped," the author of "A Nation of Wimps," Hara Estroff Marano, said. We become so bent out of shape over something as simple as letting your children out of sight on the playground that it starts seeming on par with letting them play on the railroad tracks at night. In the rain. In dark non-reflective coats.

The problem with this everything-is-dangerous outlook is that over-protectiveness is a danger in and of itself. A child who thinks he can't do anything on his own eventually can't.

I agree with the last statement and that caused me to step back and reevaluate. As someone who lives in suburbia and only occasionally visits that Big Scary City, I could not imagine allowing any one of my children to wander about unsupervised. Heck, I am not sure I am qualified to wander about unsupervised. But that is exactly it. If I did live in the city and my children were familiar with subway riding and navigating the subway system and getting on and off of trains, it might not seem so crazy.

Back when I was nine years old I had already been walking home from school all alone and staying inside until my mother came home from work several hours later. This was the same with most of my friends. It was accepted as normal. Now, thirty years later, I do not know a single person who does this. Is it more dangerous for a child to be home alone after school or has our perception just changed?

When I had just small children I remember one person telling me that little kids had little problems, and bigger kids had bigger problems; that it would never get easier, only different. At the time, overtired from many sleepless nights in a row, wearing my spit-up stained shirt, I scoffed. It had to get easier.

Now that I am here I understand what she meant. Sure, physically things are easier. But the issues are bigger and more challenging to navigate. The answers are not as simple as letting them cry it out or going to them. Suddenly they have friends who have parents much more lenient than you will ever be. And you will at least once find yourself saying, "But so-and-so is not my child, you are." Teenagers will cause your own parents' words to come flying out of your mouth.

I believe that most states have laws now about children being left home alone. Regardless, among people I know personally, twelve seems to be the generally accepted age for being left home alone.

So what does everyone else think? Would you allow your nine year old the level of freedom to ride the subway alone? What age do you think is old enough to be left alone?

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My mom recently suggested
4/8/2008 at 10:56 am
My mom recently suggested that my seven year old is getting to the age to be alone while I walked the neighborhood for 10-15 minutes (we were trying to fit exercise into my schedule). I know she would be fine, particularly with phone access to me, but I just can't do it yet. Not because I think anything would actually happen in that time, but I would feel so guilty! So yes, I think we are becoming a nation of whimps. My friends and I were riding the bus home together at 10 and coming home to empty houses. Although the first time I did it alone at 11, I got lost and had to catch a ride with a nice female stranger to find my house. Today I would be put in CPS if that happened! And how I turned the wrong way after months of doing it with friends is beyond me; it was the first evidence of my horrible sense of direction!!


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maybe have your 7yr old go
2/8/2009 at 4:53 pm
maybe have your 7yr old go with you. its hard when your trying to do something for yourself when you have kids and NO babysitter. i have a 7yr old and i just have her go with me while she is on her bike or scooter.i talked to my daughter about the rules and it worked out great. she's quite the little chatter box but she needed out as much as i did.


Nine might be pushing it...
4/8/2008 at 11:43 am
I completely agree that parents are overly cautious today. We all grew up playing in the dirt, getting scrapes and bruises, eating bad food and doing all sorts of dumb stuff. And most of us turned out to be normal, well adjusted adults. I think that the antibacterial, drug-laden, psychiatrist filled bubble that many children live in is a little extreme. Some amount of independence, even if filled with stupid decisions that we would never approve of, is necessary. Kids need to be allowed to experience life and its consequences in their own way. That being said, parents need to use some common sense along the way. The world doesn't have to be so extreme, why does it have to be very overprotective versus way too lenient? The world is a little more dangerous than when we grew up, and some of the dangers pop up in arenas that we are less familiar with (extensive internet usage was not common for me until I was in high school). So in that regard parents need to make some judgement calls that keep the safety and best interests of our children in mind. I do not think that it is reasonable to expect a 9yo to be able to safely navigate the NY subway system. While that 9yo may remember the process of how to ride the train and where to get off, are they really adept at defending themselves against manipulative adults or able to find there way back if they get turned around? I think most 9yo would quickly lose their cool and become unraveled. We as parents have the responsibility of making decisions based not just on what we think our kids are capable of but also based on what potential dangers could arise and how they will handle those. Anyways, I am rambling- for some reason this post really struck a cord with me. Maybe I will continue my rant on my own blog (heehee)!


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Ana
Home Alone
4/8/2008 at 1:22 pm
Before I became a parent I thought 8 was a good age to start leaving kids alone. Like most parents out there now and some before, both of my parents had to work and my brother and I would walk home by age 7. And would wait for a couple of hours for our mom to get home and cook dinner. Now that I am a parent, I become so concerned about leaving kids under the age of 15 home alone. But I do think it's just me being over protective and I feel there is many of us out there. And looking at my oldest I do continue to believe logically that my son will be ready to stay home alone by age 7. We just need to ingrave the dangers that are out there in our childrens heads. Let them now the concequences of opening the door to strangers or letting anyone know that they are home alone. I think we have become a nation of whimps not just because, but because of what we see happens in the news. Other parents in need to work and can't offered a sitter and the ever increasing preditors out there just waiting to see what opportunity they get to abuse our little ones. Even with a close eye on our children preditors have found that second to prey on our children and that is the reason why we have become so concerned about letting our younguns do anything without supervision.


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I grew up in New York and
4/8/2008 at 1:42 pm
I grew up in New York and rode the subway alone at 9, and starting at around 11 it wasn't just to and from school but to go shopping or to run errands (I went through a June Cleaver-worship phase when I ran a lot of the household errands). I think that the independence that comes with growing up in a big city really shaped who I am today. Whenever I would meet kids from the suburbs I would kind of pity them, even for little things like having never tried Vietnamese food or never going to the opera---and they were in high school. My mum hated the opera, so I secured my seats and often went with a friend or alone. When I became obsessed with the idea of boarding school I got to hop on the Amtrak and hire drivers to go visit them alone since my mum didn't support the idea. At 18 I wasn't afraid to go abroad on vacation by myself and made many friends because of it. I never had a curfew (but then again I had disturbingly high morals). I didn't need to constantly check in and I think I had a greater sense of self at an earlier age. Things could have went wrong but they didn't. If kids were getting snatched off the train it would surely make headline news, being lucky is the rule and not the exception. I suppose that it depends on how comfortable parents are with the odds. The train cars are filled with people and the stations are only really empty during the workday and very late at night, someone would easily hear a child's cry, or so you'd hope. I always tied the really gruesome child crimes to places with more car culture, as in: "I have a puppy in my van, come see it" or "your mother told me to give you a ride home". Granted, I knew some kids who were limited to a certain block radius from their apartments, and others who were given hours for certain places, I was one of the few with carte blanche. Then again, I also never played in dirt, or learned how to ride a bike or do any of those risky suburban things that I heard so much about. So, after the rambling, it's all about your child and your comfort level.


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No and Yes
4/8/2008 at 2:03 pm
I don't let my eight-year-old walk to the bus alone, so no, I can't imagine that I'd let him ride the subway alone next year. However, my three-year-old is more independent, adventurous and has more common sense than her older brother. Can I imagine her riding the subway alone at nine? Absolutely. Would I secretly follow her a dozen times to make sure she was cautious? Absolutely. Am I a wimp? Maybe.


I distinctly remember
4/8/2008 at 2:11 pm
I distinctly remember babysitting when I was 10. For a two-month-old. Who was not related to me. Looking back, I can't believe those parents left me alone with their baby! As a parent now, I wouldn't even consider something like that. I think each child is different in when they are ready to stay by themselves (based on their maturity, intelligence, self-policing, etc). And of course, the circumstances matter, too. Such as, how long the parents will be gone, are there neighbors nearby, is it daytime or nighttime. This is something each parent has to decide for each of her children. It's not a one-size-fits-all solution. In fact, the rules may even vary for children in the same family.


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Jennifer
I think what a person
4/8/2008 at 6:59 pm
I think what a person perceives as safe depends on where they grew up. When my kids are nine there is no way I would let them take the subway alone but then again they aren't being raised in the city. More likely than not a kid who is raised in the city is a bit more street smart, knows all the rules about strangers/accepting rides and knows what areas to avoid. And to be perfectly honest, the "big scary city" isn't as dangerous as people think. The writer knows her child better than anyone else and if she is comfortable with giving him a little bit of independance then who are we to judge. If more parents stepped outside the bubble they've put their kids in they might just find out what intelligent, ingenious and self confidant kids they have.


Her defense seems quite
4/9/2008 at 12:15 am
Her defense seems quite compelling, and in theory I agree, but I would never be brave enough to put it into practice.


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cgs
Yes, parents are overly
4/9/2008 at 1:36 am
Yes, parents are overly cautious today. A lot of that stems from the fear of not being "politically correct" in front of others. I don't make my children wear bike helmets around the yard, but you better believe that I do when they are out on a public trail. There is no way on this green earth I would let my nine year old run around New York City by himself. Aside from the fact that I would be petrified that some social service group would take him away from me, the chances of a mishap while he's out there alone are simply too great. Kids should be allowed to jump, run, and play without pads all over their bodies. They should be allowed to hang upside-side down on bars and pretend they are Olympic stars climbing fences and leaping ditches. They should not be given adult responsibilities and expected to fend for themselves at such a young age.


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Oh, how I recall how I
4/9/2008 at 1:41 am
Oh, how I recall how I begged to be allowed to go to school by myself. I was the oldest kid on the school bus. Heck, I was beyond the age limit and I was a secret school bus rider. The limit was 5th grade and I was a 6th grader. The horrors of the school bus. I had my own personal bully from the public school across the street who picked on me during that ride when I was in 1st grade (and the other kid was in 5th grade, nice guy, really). By 7th grade I was allowed to take the normal bus to school with another girl and her sister who lived in my building but went to a school a few blocks away from mine. She and her sister would spend the trip putting on make-up and stripping off their bulky sweaters to reveal...rather skimpy clothes (seeing as how her sister was a 4th grader...). I didn't get to take the subway on my own until the 8th grade. It didn't matter to my parents that the subway was closer or that it ran more often than the bus. Nothing bad had happened to me on the subway *knocks on wood*. You learn all of the rules as you grow up. Avoid empty cars, don't stand at the far end of the station all alone, yadda, yadda. I will admit to having some unpleasant encounters on the street itself, but those were probably unavoidable. Once I was in a deli waiting to pay for my candy bar and the homeless man in front of me asked for a quarter so he could pay for whatever he was buying. I gave it to him and earned myself a rather unwanted bear hug and smooch on the cheek from the guy..in a store where there were plenty of adults and the cashier was right there. I actually had to take a new route to school after that because the man would yell to me whenever he saw me, "Hey sexy! I still love you. Do you still love me?". My 12 year old self was not at all happy with that.


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I hear a lot of arguments
4/9/2008 at 1:43 am
I hear a lot of arguments about "overprotection" from parents whose child-rearing style is more relaxed than mine and, these days, it goes in one ear and out the other. In the end, no one has to live with the consequences dh and I make for our children like our children and we do. That said, my 11 y.o. will be starting secondary school in the Autumn and will have to take a commuter train (above ground) into the city each day. I don't like it one bit and if there was any other way, I'd do it, but there isn't. She is riding with at least a friend or two (and there will be a lot of other school children on the train as well), however, and she's smart, capable and mature for age. If this were my son, I'd probably be far more concerned. As to staying home alone, we've always lived in apartment buildings so I've been comfortable leaving my oldest child home for very short periods since she was seven (after making sure a trusted neighbour was home). Recently, I've even been letting both my oldest and middle child stay at home for short periods because they know how to behave at home alone (again, making sure a neighbour is around). I would never leave my middle child, who is now 7, home alone under any circumstances though, even if I did his sister. He's a completely different child. It's not just age that matters! Yes, bigger children, bigger problems. I recognized this even when mine were babies. The job goes from being physically taxing when they are small to mentally taxing when they get older and I've been bracing myself for what is to come since they were infants!


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Not too long ago
4/9/2008 at 1:54 am
I was allowed to ride the city bus to the mall (about half an hour away) to see my friends when I was 11 years old, which was also the year that I started babysitting for the neighbourhood kids. In the province that I live in in Canada, 10 is the age where children can legally be left alone. Thanks for the food for thought! Now that I am grown, I can't imagine letting little ones out of my sight, but at the time, my mom put a lot of trust in me and I valued that from her.


times change
4/9/2008 at 2:03 am
I agree with the comment above that mentioned a lot of our overprotectionism comes from fear of how we might be judged by others. I lived in NY for years and if my kid had grown up in the city and was as responsible as the columnist's son, I'd probably let him ride the subway alone too. But I don't know if I'd tell anyone about it. To me, that took far more courage than giving her kid a Metrocard and waving goodbye. My mother used to leave us alone in the car in the supermarket parking lot while she did the shopping. If she did that today some nosy passerby would call the cops. When I was eight or nine I babysat my younger brother and sister (aged two and five) in the evening when my parents went out. I was babysitting for other families by the time I was 11 and earning my spending money that way. This was perfectly acceptable in the Eighties. Honestly I think it was a lot easier to parent when you weren't afraid of showing up on the eight o'clock news for neglect after having left your three-year-old alone in the house while you watered the flowers outside.


Depends on the Kid and the Situation
4/9/2008 at 6:57 am
When my son was 9, we were living in San Diego (Pacific Beach) and he wanted to bike to the local Rite Aid alone - through 1.5 miles of heavy traffic and streets lined with crazies and of course, child molesters. I let him do it once (and secretly followed him) but had to rush back home so he could phone me at the designated time. The next time, I let him go alone and I was all in a tizzy until he got back. Today, at nearly 21, he is the most independent person I know - more so than most people MY age. I have one daughter like this, too, but another who is more timid. I handle them both differently. Plus, I think we often handle boys and girls differently. Let's face it - we don't hear about boys being abducted nearly as often as girls.


I saw the interview with
4/9/2008 at 7:59 am
I saw the interview with that mother and her son, and it seemed completely appropriate to me what she did. Her son had taken that route with her many times before. He was very familiar with the subway system since he is a resident of the city. He understood what he needed to do to navigate the subway. Put that same kid in a barn full of horses on a farm in the midwest, and tell him to walk through the woods to get home, and well, he may just freak. It is all about the environment we are used to. That boy and his mother felt very safe in NY, and it's subway. If I were her, I would have done the same thing. I too grew up in NYC. My friends and I saw things that would make any parent in the town I currently live scared silly. I went to college in Boston and had a total of 3 roommates from Maine. Every single one of them was completely terrified of the T. I, growing up in NYC, saw the T almost as an amusement ride. My parents actually LAUGHED when they first saw the Boston "subway" system, and declared it the safest thing next to wrapping your child in bubble wrap. It is all about the environment to choose to raise your children in. There is no one right answer for every child. You have to look at your child and decide what he/she and you can handle.


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I saw the interview with
4/9/2008 at 8:00 am
I saw the interview with that mother and her son, and it seemed completely appropriate to me what she did. Her son had taken that route with her many times before. He was very familiar with the subway system since he is a resident of the city. He understood what he needed to do to navigate the subway. Put that same kid in a barn full of horses on a farm in the midwest, and tell him to walk through the woods to get home, and well, he may just freak. It is all about the environment we are used to. That boy and his mother felt very safe in NY, and it's subway. If I were her, I would have done the same thing. I too grew up in NYC. My friends and I saw things that would make any parent in the town I currently live scared silly. I went to college in Boston and had a total of 3 roommates from Maine. Every single one of them was completely terrified of the T. I, growing up in NYC, saw the T almost as an amusement ride. My parents actually LAUGHED when they first saw the Boston "subway" system, and declared it the safest thing next to wrapping your child in bubble wrap. It is all about the environment to choose to raise your children in. There is no one right answer for every child. You have to look at your child and decide what he/she and you can handle.


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Cary
Why
4/9/2008 at 8:45 am
When did this fear mentality start. Is this inability to let our children out of our sight to run and burn up their energy the reason for such high rates of childhood obesity, ADHD diagnosises, and medicated mothers?


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Erika
Staying home...
4/9/2008 at 9:23 am
We've recently begun allowing our nine year old son to stay home while I run his eight year old sister to CCD or dance class (five minutes tops into our small suburban town). I also take the five and three year old with me too. He's done well, although it just about kills me until I get home. However, he's very bright, knows not to answer the phone or open the door and has my cell phone number. Being the oldest of my four, he so often gets lumped in with my younger kids when it comes to things like bedtime time, activity choices and such. So it was about time he got to do something and be treated like an older kid. I think it's giving him small bits of confidence each time we do it, although it's giving me gray hair! Plus, we live in a neighborhood and our next door neighbor is almost always home, so there are "safeguards" in place. However, although only a year apart, I would not leave my eight year old daughter at home. She just doesn't have the common sense yet nor the maturity.


Common thoughts
4/9/2008 at 10:47 am
It seems that everyone agrees that a kids maturity and familiarity with their environment is important. And that, in the past, we were all allowed to try and learn from any mistakes. The biggest thing that seems to be preventing us from letting our kids try out their independence is fear of being turned into CPS. I'm not pointing any fingers because that fear is one I consider too but think about it--in the past if we decided to leave a kid home to see how it goes and it went poorly then we clean up the mess and waited a long time to try again. If that kid needed stitches or bandaging we could tell a dr what happened & why expecting dr to comiserate and give the kid a lecture similiar to one we gave. Not today. Why do strangers have such control over parenting decisions? Maybe CPS wouldn't have such a caseload if they didn't have to check out everyone and maybe some overwhelmed parent wouldn't feel so overwhelmed if they could call the 11 yo from down the street to babysit so they could get an hour or two of free time. The world hasn't changed all that much--we are just exposed to every bad thing that happens 100s of miles away and feel like it is all in our own town. Together we get overprotected kids.


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Nixter
Overprotective?
4/9/2008 at 10:51 am
I have to admit to being one of the parents most people consider anal and overprotective. My 14 yr old son has just recently begun to show me that he can handle the responsibility of being left alone for more than an hour. I will not, however, leave him in charge of my younger two sons (ages 10 and 11) for longer than that hour. Why? Because they're boys. Because they scrap like puppies some days. Because things happen. Because I can't control the sickos out in the world today. My middle son prefers not to be left home alone, ever. My youngest would have been staying home alone at 3 if we'd have let him! I grew up unsupervised, for the most part. I was 9 when my younger brother was born and I basically raised him---he went on sleepovers with me, on my first date with me, etc. My mother was either working or drinking in a bar and that left us to our own devices. I was, and continue to be, very independent and most likely TOO independent. I'm grateful for that aspect of it (one of those "take what you can use and throw the rest back" situations) but I can't tell you I ever felt loved, protected or cared for in my youth. Things today are a little more extreme than they were when I was a kid. And while one day my sons may want to have words with me over my parenting style, I'd rather it be that I was too protective than that I wasn't protective enough. I think it's a personal choice for each parent and depends on everything from their own lives to the environment they're raising their kiddos in.


Food for Thought
4/9/2008 at 11:30 am
This was a great post. My thirteen-year-old has been staying home alone since she was eleven, but now is lobbying for permission to go to the movies and the mall with her friends, unsupervised. I'm not 100% comfortable with it, but have come to the conclusion that as long as she's in a group and being picked up at a designated time and has a cell phone with her, my fear is unreasonable. Letting go is hard, especially today.


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Colleen
Whoever said this is easy lies
4/9/2008 at 12:14 pm
I got myself ready for school, walked 12 blocks to school and back home every day and stayed home until my mom got home when I was in second grade. 7 years old. When I was 12 I took care of my brother and sister who were twins while my mom and stepdad went out (which was alot). I don't think with me that it's so much being overprotective as just not wanting to put that kind of pressure on my kid to grow up so fast. My son is 10 and I let him out of my site, but not all day like it used to be for kids. My 4 year old daughter needs to stay where she can hear me holler for her and there's no room for discussion there (no matter what she thinks). I think most of us navigate this parenting thing the best we can and need to step back with the judgement. Perhaps some parents are overprotective and some are too lenient according to my standards, but who am I to say? I think most of us know our own kids and what they are capable of better than strangers who look down their noses at our choices.


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Laura
I would have done the same
4/9/2008 at 12:46 pm
I would have done the same thing. My ten year old doesn't always make the best decisions but he NEVER gets lost. I need him to help me find my way sometimes! When I was nine I babysat for a neighbor. For three days and two nights! Four kids!!! It seemed perfectly fine back then although now I can't imagine those parents leaving my with their four kids that long and my Mother letting me do it! I let my eight year old stay home for a few minutes at a time and I let my ten year old stay home longer. They are perfectly fine with it but we live in the country. If we lived in town or the city it might be a different story.


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Lisa
I think it totally depends on each kid
4/9/2008 at 1:53 pm
I have a 12 year old who I will leave alone with the 9 year old if I am just running to the store or nearby in town. Now.........I would NEVER leave my 9 year old alone because I know he doesn't make the best choices. The 12 year old has always been a really bright and conscientious kid. The 9 year old.........a little more on the "ditzy" side, heheheheh. But I do agree........I very much tend to baby them. I know it is much better for them to be able to fend for themselves at times and know what to do in any given situation. But sometimes.........I just can't risk the guilt I would feel vs. the learning experience. Baby steps.........


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Anonymous
bad things happen sometimes.
4/9/2008 at 4:39 pm
bad things happen sometimes. i was of those children that a bad thing happened to. sometimes bad people just snatch kids right off the street. i would rather be overprotective than sorry.


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lou
I have a 9 yr old stepson
4/9/2008 at 5:26 pm
I have a 9 yr old stepson who happens to be very resposible and mature for his age. still I would never leave him at home alone this young for any period of time. He does however get 'practice' so to speak for when this will eventually occur. we live in the country on 7 acres and my father lives around the corner on 12 acres. he and his 7 yr old brother constantly play unsupervised all over the place and in the timber. I think they're old enough and quite capable to be unsupervised for some period of time with their father and I as well as "grandpa john" close at hand. We did however get them these walkie talkies that have a twenty mile radius and are chargable so we don't have to worry about dead batteries ( they work great). They take one with them when they play out of our sight range and we keep the other so we can check in on them every so often and let them know when to come home or so they can notify us, god forbid should they get hurt. we just recently moved out there from the city and we used them there too when they would play at a neighbors house outside. however they never wondered further than the neighbors unsupervised in the city. It's not that you can't trust your children to be alone and to know, respect, and abide by the boundaries you've set for them to follow in your absence, its that you can't trust other people.


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KIZ
While I don't have older
4/9/2008 at 5:33 pm
While I don't have older children, I do have two small children (2 1/2 and 9 months). I am one of those overprotective, neurotic, ultra-paranoid types, too. Maybe when they are older I will ease up a bit, but for now not a chance. I remember as a kid being able to walk to and from school unaccompanied, go ride my bike for hours around my neighborhood, babysit my siblings and other's children when I was 10 and run to the local quickie mart for a snack. Thinking back on it I think that my parent were crazy to allow us that amount of freedom, but at the same time it was a different world 20 years ago. I cannot watch the news because they inevitably have reports of missing/kidnapped, abused, neglected or murdered children. I have had to stop watching certain criminal dramas because it just adds to my anxiety about all the "what ifs" that could happen to my children. There is a reason why "Dateline" has been very successful in their repeated attempts to "Catch to Predator." They are out there every day, waiting for an opportunity to get to our kids. I used to work for a school district and there wasn't a week that went by when there wasn't an alert for teachers to watch for a specific vehicle lingering too long or person jumping out to grab kids as they walk home. So what if I'm overprotective, don't like to have my children out of my sight, or ultra-paranoid. My children know I love them. We can do activities together that are more than "sit at home all day to avoid the sickos that are waiting to get you" and still avoid childhood obesity and ADD/ADHD. My children, despite their young age, are fiercely independent and adventurous. They are showing me what it's like to discover the world and I am showing them how to do it safely. If that means I'm overprotective then, oh, well! At least we wont be on the evening news!


Home Alone
4/9/2008 at 6:16 pm
I definitely agree that we live in a time where parents are petrified to let their children be children. Statistically our children are much more likely to die in a car accident while we drive them everywhere than they are to meet with "stranger danger". Many parents secretly feel they are "better" parents if they are overprotective than those who are more logical (for lack of a better word). Of course a mature 9 year old can take public transportation for goodness sakes! But naturally use common sense and make sure that you know your child's abilities and that you have proper safeguards in place. For example, consider where your child is going and the time your child is taking public transit. I know parents who even prefer to drive their teenagers to school rather than let them take (god forbid) public transportation. Goodness, what message is that sending them? The more independence you can give your child, the healthier emotionally and physically they will be. Can bad things happen? Of course. I could walk outside tomorrow and be hit by a car. But I cannot live my life thinking about the what ifs, and we should not teach our children to live that way either. It is crippling to do so. Our job as parents is to give our children wings not to clip them or to make them fearful.


I am definitely more of an
4/9/2008 at 7:27 pm
I am definitely more of an overprotective parent. I think 12/13 is a good age to leave alone or ride subways or walk to and from school. I just worry about people grabbing kids who are alone. Worries me. I wouldn't want to chance it if it isn't necessary.


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stutmann9
older kids with younger is ok for a short time
4/13/2008 at 5:20 am
I have 7 children, 5 who attend school. Our oldest is 14 years old, then 12, 11, 9, and 7. Occasionally, they get home from school and I am running late because of long lines at the store. They know the routine-snack, homework, then they can play on the computer/watch tv. With my 14 year-old at home, I am comfortable letting them be home without me for at least an hour, while I have my two youngest ones with me running errands just around town. They know they can call me on my cell phone when they need to talk to me. The rule is that they do not go outside or let anyone in while I am not there. If kids know the rules and understand their importance, I am ok with them staying home for short periods. As far as letting them have the freedom to do the things I used to do as a kid, I think I'd have an anxiety attack every day unless they had a "homing device" on them. You just can't be too careful in this new world of abductions and depravity in the general population. Blame it all on the media with shows that glorify heinous crimes!


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My husband thinks I'm over
4/9/2008 at 7:28 pm
My husband thinks I'm over protective to a point where I need to seek help. I feel uncomfortable letting them play in the front yard without supervision. Many times he has held me by the shoulders, looked me straight in the eye and told me "no one is coming to steal your children!" I don't know that. My MIL watches my kids while I'm at work. She told me the other day she let my 8yr old (oldest) take the 4 yr old (youngest) to the park for a half hour. The park is just two blocks away but I went nuts (to my husband). Too much could have gone wrong. I know it didn't but it is WAY beyond my comfort level.


Most parents worry more about their kids than what others think
4/10/2008 at 1:17 am
I would argue that most folks don't make decisions on how they parent based on their concerns as to how "others" may perceive them, as some have claimed here. Most parents who are considered "overprotective" are so because they fear for the safety of their children. Whether that concern is based upon their children's ability to make sound decisions, or because the parents are afraid of environmental dangers and/or predators, they fear for their children's safety and make their decisions accordingly. Furthermore, there is a great deal of validity in the argument that "things aren't the same as they were when we grew up." The neighborhood community of our youth is no longer in most parts of the country; we are more disconnected, more isolated and as such, most of us cannot rely on the "it takes a village" ideology to protect our kids. Everyone has to make their own decisions for their own family and their own community as to what they think is a sound and reasonable choice for what is and what is not safe for their kids; no other parents can make that decision or judge that decision from the periphery. As for us, we err on the side of caution, but we've always been the "there's always time for safety" kind of folks, and I am married to an Eagle Scout.


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Just look at who responded
4/10/2008 at 8:00 am
I also struggle w/ this concept. I have an 8 year old who could probably run the household by herself. She is more responsible than some adults I know. However, if I did leave her and something terrible happened-- I know I would be up on child endangerment charges or worse. There are no statutes at least in my state ( I am a lawyer) which spell out an exact age or define situations where you may leave a achild alone. Why? Because as the posters all note-- it depends! I would also like to distinguish that the individuals who posted commments ( myself included ) are not the "hands off " parents. The commenters are those who are read blogs, etc. to get the best tips, information and to make informed and educated decisions about their kids. The parents who leave their kids home alone are not reading this stuff. They are playing it by their gut instinct--- something most of us have abandoned. I will admit--- I probably should use my gut and common sense more and not read so many blogs and comments.


Depends on how your child is Raised
4/10/2008 at 1:00 pm
If I was raising my child in a big city, and she needed to learn to live and navigate through our big city, yes, I would let her start riding the subway around 9. It's like a small town kid walking down the block to the convenience store to buy a bag of candy. If I was raising my kid as the above mentioned small town kid, no, she wouldn't get to ride the subway on her own at 9. I'd wait until she was in high school, after having been to the city with me many many times. Kids raised in different types of places learn different survival skills. A country kid would be lost in a subway system. Heck, a country grown-up would get lost on a subway system! As for staying home alone, 9 or 10 also seems reasonable to me, for 2-3 hours at a time, and when they're awake. I wouldn't leave a sleeping child alone. Not until they're older. A 9 year old would be too disoriented should she wake up to a fire alarm, alone, at midnight. But, then again, it all depends on your child's ability to be independent, and feel comfortable with it. I was left alone in the afternoons starting around 10 and was fine, but didn't want to be left alone at night until I was 12. It's that whole dialogue with your kid thing. It's as much up to them as it is up to you.


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Yet Not Responsible Enough for a Cellphone
4/10/2008 at 9:47 pm
I found it interesting that the New York mom found the 9-year-old responsible enough to travel through the city alone, but gave him change for a pay phone rather than let him have a cellphone because she was afraid he might lose it.


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11 yr old has a cell phone
2/8/2009 at 4:48 pm
before my son got his phone we made a deal. 1.he had to get good grades 2.he had to do his chores 3.do homework 4.graduate 5.stay out of trouble 6.take care of his animal 7.he had to take care of his games now that he has his phone he still has to keep up w/our deal or he will loose the phone.


I just got a CPS visit in this regard
4/12/2008 at 2:19 am
Which is terrifying by the way. That social worker showed up on my doorstep to investigate and anonymous call alleging that my children are neglected. Naked and unsupervised. I thought I might pas out from the stress right there. The reason? I let them play outside while I'm inside watching them through the windows. We have grass in front of and beside our apartment. 10 steps away from my front door and just out of sight is the playground and grassy area. IN A GATED FAMILY ORIENTED COMMUNITY, where residents are screened for prior convictions, etc. Within earshot of the house and within sight of friends that I trust who have a full view of the play area and are almost always home, I allow my 6 year old and 4 year old to play in this protected little sheltered place with their little friends and am content to check on them every few minutes instead of stand there watching now that they know the rules. We live in Southern CALIFREAKINGFORNIA and this "Concerned" neighbor is worried that they aren't wearing shoes in the winter. They spent their first years in Canada, what winter? It will obviously be an unfounded claim and the social worker was very gracious once she was satisfied that it was unfounded but I'm still angry that someone felt that it was their place to threaten my family and put us in this defensive position because they disagree with my parenting choices. The commenter who said that we do a lot of things these days because we're afraid of other adults and their opinions, not protecting our kids, was dead on. And it sucks.


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My parents left us well
4/15/2008 at 1:05 am
My parents left us well alone, and it served us very, very well in life. Probably one of the best things they did was to tell us they trusted us, to teach us how to properly use stoves and knives at a shockingly young age. As a result, they were able to leave us at home alone for weeks at a time by the time I was fifteen. I didn't do anything terribly illegal, I didn't throw wild parties myself, and now I'm able to run the family business, travel, choose my own major. I think parents do a lot of these things due to societal pressures. No longer do kids have to fend for themselves because the parents are just plain busy keeping a roof over their heads. While in the 1800's mom might have been "home", she also had a house to run, which was significantly more difficult to do then. The best thing my parents ever did for me was give me the ability to live, screw up, heal myself, and move on - it's made me a much better, stronger, more empathetic person than I ever could have been otherwise, and I cannot imagine denying that to my children.


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17 year old home alone
5/6/2008 at 2:15 am
I have a 17 year old son and i am going away for a week, is it illegal in australia to leave him at home by himself? i told him that i thought it was so have made arrangements for him stay at his grandmothers house for the week, he is not happy about this at all and thinks he is old enough to be at home.


Home Alone Children State Laws
6/1/2008 at 7:46 am
Legal Age Info Only - There are very few states in the U.S. with legal minimum ages, but many state agencies have published guidelines. NH, Illiniois, Maryland and Oregon are a few of the states with very specific ages. Typically 8 year olds and over can be left at home for up to several hours (usually after school before a parent gets home from work). 12 years old appears to be the most common recommendation. http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm provides a state by state comparison.


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Not sure.
8/6/2008 at 6:06 pm
Me and my friends were wanting to go on holiday abroad nxt year. 2 of us will be 17 and one will only be 16. will we be able to book and stay in a hotel alone, with us not having an 18 year old with us ? get bak to me soon thanks


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