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Finding the Family Car: the Conclusion

By Mighty Maggie on Thursday, July 3, 10:45 am EDT

When we marched into the car dealership Saturday afternoon, giant car seats in tow, I was prepared to make the deal. I'd done my research. I'd quizzed the internet. I'd convinced my husband that This Was The Car, and we'd taken a test drive. All we had to do was make sure we could still fit inside once the car seats were installed.

And we did! Just barely. Phillip is six foot two. I am 30 weeks pregnant. Small we are not, and the car we wanted is described in all the reviews as a "mini minivan." But for city dwellers with tiny kids and a rare need for the third row, it's perfect. So Phillip signaled the salesman over while I took deep breaths and tried to make peace with trading in my super fuel-efficient four-door car for a mini minivan.

We sat down at one of the little tables with the salesman and the horrible Negotiation Phase began. The plan was for Phillip to do the talking and for me to keep my mouth shut at all costs. My propensity for inappropriate laughter combined with what people have called my "painful honesty" does not make for a good negotiation poker face.

See, I just find the entire song and dance ridiculous, not to mention a little bit mortifying, and that kind of attitude makes for a terrible bargainer. Because we weren't having much luck selling the car ourselves (although we only advertised it for a week. Can you say "impatient"?) we decided to just trade it in. So first we had to participate in the whole How Much Will You Give Me For My Car performance. You tell the dealer what you want for it. He grimaces and shakes his head a little and heads into the Secret Back Office to pow wow with The Banker or whoever it is back there making all the decisions. He comes back to say he'll give us X amount – not quite what we asked for, but maybe better than what we were expecting. At this point I'm doing all right. I'm ready for Phillip to say, "Great!" but NO. Phillip has a few other points to make and the salesman marches into the secret office AGAIN and right about now is where I start rolling my eyes and tapping my foot and saying things like, "Why can't they just tell you the ACTUAL PRICE and then you PAY IT and then you can LEAVE?"

This is why I'm supposed to keep my mouth shut.

After you agree on the trade in value, you start on the price of the new car. Which is even worse. The actual car stops mattering and instead you're talking about the trim level and the fact that it's the last weekend of the month. The price the dealer was giving us was decent, but we knew we could do better. We'd looked up the car on Parenting's new car buying tool and knew that another dealer was prepared to sell the car for $1000 less. We could have just gone to that dealer in the first place, but he was far away and we are lazy. Instead we printed out the deal and brought it with us to the dealership near our house. It was a literal card up Phillip's sleeve and when he pulled it out, the salesman was perplexed. "What's THIS?"

"Oh," I said, "Dealers who are part of this program have to honor that price. It's for moms who don't want to deal with this whole negotiation thing and who maybe think it is the most annoying way in the world to spend one's afternoon. Also, how come there are no pictures of car seats on your website?" And that's when Phillip kicked me under the table and I resolved all over again to keep my mouth shut.

The dealer huffed off into the Secret Room. When he came back ten minutes later he offered to match the price. SCORE.

Of course, even THEN my husband wanted to "sleep on it" and wouldn't close the deal. Which only meant that we second guessed ourselves all night long (easy to do when the nightly news starts telling you that Americans are downsizing to smaller more fuel-efficient cars, ARGH). But Phillip headed off to the dealership the next afternoon, without his impatient wife, and hours and hours later arrived home with our shiny new car. I am now the proud owner of a mini minivan. I've got several years before soccer practice invades my daily life, but can I just say how much easier it is to get your one-year-old in and out of a VAN? SO MUCH EASIER.

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Member Comments
wow! you are going with the one I mentioned!
7/3/2008 at 11:12 am
How cool was that to click on the link and discover you are going with the car I mentioned on your first post?! I understand it isn't all about me, or at all, really, but still, that was pretty cool. Let me know how you like it, okay? I haven't gotten mine yet, I'm so jealous!


I am SO with you on this one
7/3/2008 at 11:14 am
I am SO with you on this one - I HATE negotiating. Even when I used to travel for work & would shop in market areas where you are supposed to bargain for things, I couldn't handle it. If they offered me a price, I would pay it.
I mean, come on, do I really want to convince the small Cambodian child that her 'silk' purse for sale is only worth $2.00 instead of $1.00? Seriously? Half the time, I would give them More than they asked for because it was obvious they just had so little.

I'm such a sucker.
:) Becky
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Sarah
I detest the whole "I need
7/3/2008 at 12:51 pm
I detest the whole "I need to go in back and talk to the (person who can actually authorize the deal)" trick. I had to hold my tongue when I bought my car to avoid saying, "if you're not authorized to make this deal, then you need to send that person out to negotiate, because we're not going to talk to somebody without that authority." It was ridiculous. But my dad's story was even worse. When he bought his previous car, as soon as they had settled on a price, the dealer then asked him to wait just a moment, "pretended" (I'm sure) to call his wife on the phone, and told her that he couldn't take her out to dinner tonight as planned because he'd just sold a car for a ridiculously low amount. Fortunately, now that I'm married to a husband who won't put up with that crap, it should be a bit easier this time. My husband heard that story from my dad, and said if it had been him he would have gotten up and walked away from the deal and gone to another dealership. I wouldn't blame him.


When my husband and I bought
7/3/2008 at 3:16 pm
When my husband and I bought our newest used car, we took my FIL with us (and my MIL tagged along). When we finally got to the negotiating part, the guy (who seemed nice but was sleazy in hindsight) starts in on the numbers and monthly payments and junk. My FIL pulled out a calculator, punched some numbers and held it out for my husband and I and said "This is what your monthly payment should be." And apparently, the look on the guy's face was funny. And with each new number, my FIL would punch some more numbers into his calculator and show us different numbers. And we were all shocked when my BIL bought a car w/out my FIL along. Silly boy.


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Jen
love it!
7/3/2008 at 4:48 pm
Yes, we have the Mazda5 too and we love it! We've got three kids and we use the third row every day and it's still great.


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Julie T
What happens when there older than 12?
7/7/2008 at 10:31 pm
Hi Julie here, going nuts with a very self centered, spoiled,sneeky,down right MEAN!!!!!! 16 year old who has no understanding, compassion, paitence,empathy for her 12 yr old sister with bi polar & adhd, and her younger sister 9 yr old who is developmentally delayed. How are we to parent after they become a know it all teenager. I mean shell be like this for at least 8 to 10 years. There isnt a massage therapist strong enough for thease KNOTS!!!!!!!


Mazda5 and mileage
7/12/2008 at 4:04 pm
Congrats! I have had my eye on that car since your last post on the topic. Now will you tell us... what the gas mileage really is? Mazda's website has asterisks all over it.


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Tanguy
Great. Maybe, if you car is
7/15/2008 at 5:43 pm
Great. Maybe, if you car is really, maybe you can sell here :


Great. Maybe, if you car is
7/15/2008 at 5:44 pm
Great. Maybe, if you car is really old, maybe you can sell here: http://www.expertissim.com


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