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Maternity Leave For Childless Women?

By Lauren at Parenting.com on Monday, October 19, 5:05 pm EDT

Any Sex and the City fans out there will remember the episode A Woman's Right to Shoes, A.K.A. No Shoes, No Service. Angry that she's had to buy gifts for her girlfriends when they got married or had children, Carrie decides that although she doesn't have a husband or a baby, she deserves her own single girl registry (at Manolo Blahnik). I always thought it was incredibly selfish and bratty of her, and that the entire universe would agree with me.

But according to Henry Wallop of The Telegraph, 74% of women in Britain might side with Carrie -- or at least they think that women should be able to have a six-month maternity leave, whether they have a baby or not.

Crazy, right? But then Sam Baker, editor-in-chief of Red magazine made an interesting point:

"This isn't a working mum versus working non-mums argument. Nobody thinks maternity leave is a holiday. Employers, especially now, need to incentivise their staff in imaginative ways and that could involve offering leave. Some companies are already doing this."

But does this make maternity leave seem too much like a vacation? Can the two different leaves really be compared? What do you think?


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Michelle at Parenting.com's picture
Michelle at Parenting.com
Maybe, but don't call it maternity leave
10/20/2009 at 1:57 pm
Sure, as a single woman I would love it if I had the option to go on leave. But I would expect that incentive to be offered to ANY of my coworkers, whether they were male or female, non-parent or parent. Should this be offered as compensation for those of us who don't have a reason to take maternity leave? Uh, no. (BTW, I completely agree with you about that S&TC episode. You want someone to celebrate you for just being you, Carrie? It happens once a year -- it's called your birthday.)


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Michelle at Parenting.com
Re-reading the article...
10/20/2009 at 2:12 pm
...I can't figure out who ran the survey. Am I missing it? ...It sounds like maybe the survey question was posed more like, "Would you like to be able to take a 6-month break? [You know, like maternity leave, except without the baby]" and then the writer spun it into "74% of women think they should be allowed to take maternity leave whether they have a baby or not!", in order to get people like you and me riled up.


Laura Porto Stockwell's picture
Laura Porto Stockwell
This assumes maternity leave is vacation!
10/20/2009 at 2:13 pm
I found the feedback I got around maternity leave was interesting. Some folks actually acted like I was on vacation! The reality was actually quite different. The three months I took as maternity leave (a month of which was self funded) included many sleepless nights, endless nursing and diaper changing. It also included recovering from a c-section while doing all of this. It was by no means a vacation. But more importantly, maternity leave allowed me time to learn how to be a mom and bond with my baby. And as important and special as it was for me, it was even more important for my son. While our society treats this as a personal issue it is an issue of our community and for our greater good. It is a issue of taking care of our children and families. This is a riduculous question in my opinion. If my coworker was on leave to recover from heart surgery I would not expect that I would receive leave as well. Please.


Anonymous's picture
Anonymous
I am two months out from a
10/20/2009 at 7:00 pm
I am two months out from a c-section myself, so I understand the recovery time needed, and I appreciate the opportunity I've had to stay home and bond with my son. But I also understand that I made the choice to "need" this leave time. Yes, it's important for me to work on my family relationships, and yes, this will help the community, but there are many other ways I could be contributing to the greater good. What if I had decided to remain childless, but wanted three months to volunteer mentoring homeless children? Wouldn't that also be important? I don't think this is a ridiculous question at all. We live in such a "mommy culture" that I think a lot of people place motherhood on a pedestal, while overlooking the many other ways women can contribute to society. What if everyone got three (or twelve!) months of "personal development" time, to be spent in whatever way they thought of as most important? Many women would certainly choose to have children, but some might decide to go develop water purification systems in Ethiopia.


Anonymous's picture
Anonymous
Balanced view
11/3/2009 at 10:53 am
Thank you for your balanced view on a potentially divisive issue. I am single and unable to have children but would love to be able to take some time out of my job to work on a project in the developing world helping to build housing for poor communities. Not only am I denied this opportunity, but I have to work full-time in order to make ends meet as I am solely reliant on my income. I would have loved to have children, and the pain of not being able to have children is intensified by being discriminated against for being single and childless. In addition to all this, I have a heavier workload in my job to cover colleagues who are on maternity leave and there is an assumption that single people have no ties and therefore can be prevailed upon to work all the time for very little reward. We have lots to offer to the wider community, but sadly are often struggling to keep our heads above water. I think it would be fairer if we were all given an opportunity for extended leave to use for the thing that we deem to be most worthwhile, whether that be bringing up children or volunteering in our local community.


Anonymous's picture
Anonymous
Heart surgery is not a
11/5/2009 at 10:51 am
Heart surgery is not a choice. Becoming a parent most of the time is. Please.


Hahahaha...
10/20/2009 at 2:45 pm
Seriously? Maternity leave is a necessary thing after giving birth which some employers don't even offer! No I don't think non moms should get maternity leave. I mean if you want a vacation then take one. But that is what it is. Vacation.


becky5687's picture
becky5687
There is such a thing...
10/20/2009 at 3:34 pm
It is called a Leave of Absence. Many companies allow this. I think a lot of people forget that at most companies maternity leave is not paid. At my company it is only paid if you pay for short term disability, and then it is only paid at a percentage of your normal wage for so many weeks. Also, I agree with the posters above... Maternity leave is FAR from a vacation, it was hard work and a MUCH needed recovery / adjustment period. So, I say, sure, they should be allowed to take a leave of abscence (essentially the same as maternity leave) which is already allowed at many companies.


julz's picture
julz
hardly leave
10/20/2009 at 3:38 pm
Only on condition that: They don't sleep Don't leave home Don't shop Eat cold food Drink cold tea Don't have sex Stay in pj's until 12 each day


Shannon2485's picture
Shannon2485
Laughable
10/20/2009 at 3:40 pm
I would certainly not call maternity leave a vacation and I, as a mother, am in shock that people would think they're entitled to it if they don't have a child. Most employers don't offer paid maternity leave and our system of maternity leave in the U.S. is far behind other countries. Everyone is entitled to leave of some sort but call it what it is - a vacation or a leave of absence. To call it maternity leave when there is no child involved is a disgrace.


Anonymous's picture
Anonymous
Its called maternity leave
10/20/2009 at 8:13 pm
Its called maternity leave for a reason... like many others have said, its not maternity leave if theres no child. duh. my measly 4-6 weeks that i will be recieving for maternity leave will not be paid, nor anything close to what i would call a 'vacation'. The question actually strikes me as humorous that someone would even compare the two. Who gets 6 months leave anyways? I could never afford that, in todays economy and shortage of jobs, people are actually thinking about this kind of stuff? From what I've read in the paper people lucky enough to still have their jobs are not even taking the paid vacation time they have accumulated in fear of the shakey job market. Seems ridiculous to me!


Anonymous's picture
Anonymous
Seems like the word
10/20/2009 at 9:55 pm
Seems like the word "maternity" is what's really bothering most of you. But why is it that if you take leave when you don't have children...you assume it's just a "vacation." Single people and people without children have domestic responsibilities as well that shouldn't fall under "vacation". Things like taking care of an ailing family member, moving or renovating a home, working on a shaky marriage, catching up on medical appointments. Things that are near impossible to fit into a hectic full time work schedule. Things that rob you of sleep and relaxation time—but without the rewards that having children bring! Why not level the playing field and call it "domestic leave" instead? This way it's not a contest on who is the most worthy of job protection after taking leave. And we can leave our sweeping generalizations and laughing at singletons/non-moms for some other time, okay?


emma's picture
emma
Regarding leave for an
10/21/2009 at 8:52 am
Regarding leave for an ailing family member, working on a shaky marriage - I believe some companies have something called "compassionate leave" for those. But all of the things mentioned exist for mothers (who gave birth) as well. I think, in the states at least, if people realized mothers essentially have to pay to take maternity leave (short term disability, leave w/o pay) they wouldn't think it was so great after all... I stayed home for three months with my daughter - six weeks at half pay (which I had paid into short term disability for) and six weeks at no pay.


De in D.C.'s picture
De in D.C.
Leave Available
10/21/2009 at 10:10 pm
At my company, as with many others in the US, "maternity" leave is actually short term disability. Therefor, everyone in the company is entitled to it, assuming they need to use it. Why is this even an issue? Delivering a baby traumatizes your body; so does having your gall bladder removed. Give the employee the time to recuperate, and you'll have a more productive work force. As to people that need to take extended leave to care for family... That's covered by law under FMLA for companies with more than 50 employees. Again, the leave is already available for those who need it. Same deal for parents and childless employees; 3 months unpaid leave. After my short term disability runs out, I'll be optioning my FMLA to have 3 months off with my new baby. My childless co-worker just used a month to care for her ailing father. Same deal.


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Tammy Sablack
Sure...
11/6/2009 at 11:10 am
I'm all for it as long as moms get to have another 6 week leave without having to care for a newborn and recover from delivering a child. I don't know about England but here in the states maternity leave IS NOT for bonding with your baby. It's for recovering from having a baby. If it were for bonding with your baby, adoptive mothers would get it too.


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