So disgusting that she nearly vomited?

[diosanotoria]

I was just reading the momspeak section of the new Babytalk mag.
The one mother wrote about how disgusted she was after reading "A night in the life of...a mom-to-be of twins"
First of all, how does she know that those boys won't have a wonderful life? It's because of people like her that the family will face discrimination. It doesn't matter who you are with as long as the child is happy and taken care of. I hope Babytalk does another article about a gay couple just so she cancels her subscription. People like her make me want to vomit.

[sweetsophia2008]

I wanted to THROW my copy at this lady!! I mean, um, what's the problem with two women or two men being completely happy together???? And why not have children? I think it's wonderful and it doesn't bother me AT ALL. I have a close frined who is a lesbian, and she and her wife are having twins too! I couldn't be any happier!!!
I hope Babytalk AND Parenting Magazines have MORE and MORE articles like that!! See how people like her feel about that!

[myboysmom]

There are so many heterosexual couples out there that SHOULDN'T have kids, and we have citizens and gov't trying to tell homosexuals that they have to have permission to adopt or even be married! THAT is what disgusts me. They are people aren't they?

[kimber13]

Jessica Holt's reaction made me want to vomit. I feel very sorry for her children. She apparently breeds hate and will also teach her children not only to be closed minded, hateful and prejudiced but to publicly show their ignorance as well. I do pity her. I hope she cancels her subscription, I don't want to read anything that disgusting ever again.

[ntbgirl]

I have to ask myself...why did she NEARLY Vomit? If she is so disgusted with the fact that two consenting adults who are different than her are going to have children together, why not just get it over with and vomit? I'll provide the barf bag!

I mean, I can't stand men who wear socks with flip flops. Should I vomit over their obvious egregious choice of footwear ensemble?

Or how about women who get their lover's names tattooed on their chest and then break up a week later? Thats disgusting to me.

Also disgusting is raising your children to be homophobic morons who can't accept people for how they are made. Because as we all "KNOW" , people CHOSE to be Gay. I mean who DOESN'T wake up one day and say "wow. Today I'll be straight. Maybe friday I'll be gay so i can wear my chaps. Monday I'm wearing my members only jacket, so I'll be straight"

So to you, kind madam. I say to you, YOU make ME want to nearly vomit. Only i had a nice dinner, and you aren't worthy of me losing it because you clearly have your own issues to deal with.

[DylansMama]

First I'd like to say that I love Baby Talk magazine and I think it is valuable resource for all parents. But I have to say that I was absolutely shocked to see that you decided to publish a such a hateful message from a reader in the May 2008 Momspeak section of your magazine (a message from Jessica Holt of Charlotte NC who was upset to see an article about a homosexual couple and their children).

As far as I understand it, Baby Talk magazine is a PARENTING magazine referring to all types of people who are raising children, not just those who are heterosexual. I do believe that everyone has a right to their own opinion no matter how hateful it may be, but by even acknowledging this type of hatred towards any group of people is almost justifying their behavior. We all know that the world is full of ignorant, self-righteous, discriminatory people, but we certainly don't need to spread their prejudicial words for them. And for that matter I don't think your magazine would publish any hateful messages about a specific race, how is this any different?

My hope is that Baby Talk would focus on spreading stories and messages of love and acceptance. People like Jessica Holt shouldn't be given the satisfaction of being heard so publicly and it saddens me that such a wonderful publication like Baby Talk has given her and anyone one that shares her hateful opinion, that opportunity. In Jessica's own words (the only words of hers that I actually agree with), 'Babytalk, you're better than this!'

[Jordyn]

I'm not saying that I agree with Jessica Holt but Magazines often post bad reactions to their articles as well as good reactions. I'm not surprised they posted her comment it probably surprised them and they probably posted it to see what people would think.

[War_Eagle]

I was just reading the momspeak section of the new Babytalk mag.
The one mother wrote about how disgusted she was after reading "A night in the life of...a mom-to-be of twins"
First of all, how does she know that those boys won't have a wonderful life? It's because of people like her that the family will face discrimination. It doesn't matter who you are with as long as the child is happy and taken care of. I hope Babytalk does another article about a gay couple just so she cancels her subscription. People like her make me want to vomit.

One of the things I love about liberals is their hypocrisy.

I always think it's funny when liberals attempt to show how tolerant they are of homosexuals by being intolerant to those who disagree with that lifestyle.

[War_Eagle]

I wanted to THROW my copy at this lady!! I mean, um, what's the problem with two women or two men being completely happy together????

Or how about a woman and a horse or a man and a nine year old boy?

I agree with you. What's wrong with these things?

[brittneeskidmore]

Before everyone starts arguing with war-eagle, may I suggest completely ignoring him? I've been involved in discussions with him in other threads, and it doesn't matter what you say or how adequately you say it, he's not even willing to consider the points you've made. If you don't have his standards for living, you may as well have none at all.
I promise, the best thing to do is pretend his Reply doesn't exist.

As far as I'm concerned, how does this family's way of life effect the lady who commented (jessica holt)? Who is she to judge the lives they live?

[haleymom07]

i dont think that anyone here has the right to judge anyone, if you feel that homosexual relationships are wrong then that is your opinion, but you need to respect our opinion also, in the aspect that we feel it is wrong to judge someone or their lifestyle, if they are 2 adults who love each other they why not have a child, that child will be just as loved, just as cared for, and just as happy as any child of heterosexual parents. and War-Eagle why are you trying to start fights on here, this is a place for friends and to give advice, not a place to be rude!

[War_Eagle]

War-Eagle why are you trying to start fights on here, this is a place for friends and to give advice, not a place to be rude!

I wasn't rude and I didn't try to start a fight with anyone. I just pointed out that it's hypocritical to proclaim your tolerance, all the while condemning others for disagreeing with a lifestyle that their religion teaches is immoral.

If you're going to be tolerant, then be tolerant. Don't be tolerant toward one point of view and intolerant to another point of view.

That isn't tolerance, that's prejudice.

Now, if you want to talk about being rude, shall we recap your statements about homeschooled children?

[haleymom07]

i never said one bad thing about homeschooled children or their parents, and i never said that people couldnt have their opinions about homosexuality, i said my opinion and i gave reasons for it, if you dont like them then get over it. you have your opinions and that is fine but you shouldnt expect everyone to conform to them.

[War_Eagle]

i never said one bad thing about homeschooled children or their parents

If you hadn't recognized that your statements were out of line, you wouldn't have backpeddled by trying to blame them on your friends. You stated "I don't think homeschooling is good" and then listed several homeschooling strawmen.

Then, when several of us in that thread called you on it, you then changed your story to "Well, I don't think that, that's just what my friend told me".

Since this thread isn't about homeschooling, I'm not going to derail it.

I addressed your statements in that thread and showed, using your own words, that you did, in fact, say those things that you're now claiming you did not say.


and i never said that people couldnt have their opinions about homosexuality, i said my opinion and i gave reasons for it, if you dont like them then get over it. you have your opinions and that is fine but you shouldnt expect everyone to conform to them.

I never said anyone had to conform to my opinion. I just pointed out that it's hypocritical to claim to be tolerant, and then turn around and be intolerant of those who disagree with you.

[War_Eagle]

Before everyone starts arguing with war-eagle, may I suggest completely ignoring him? I've been involved in discussions with him in other threads, and it doesn't matter what you say or how adequately you say it, he's not even willing to consider the points you've made. If you don't have his standards for living, you may as well have none at all.
I promise, the best thing to do is pretend his Reply doesn't exist.

I've been through both our "find all posts" features and can't find anywhere where you and I have had any sort of interaction at all, other than where you just jumped into a thread to call me closed minded. I don't see anywhere where I've done any of the things you've say I have.


As far as I'm concerned, how does this family's way of life effect the lady who commented (jessica holt)? Who is she to judge the lives they live?

But, by that logic, who are you to judge me?

[haleymom07]

i am absolutely tolerant of other opinions, especially about homosexuality. i understand it is against some people's morals to condone it, but i also see where homosexual people are people too. we are all different and we think different things but it all comes down to we are all people, we all have feelings, we all have values, and we all have a different outlook on life. who are any of us to judge the way another person lives their life?? i know that a lot of people dont agree with gay marriage, and they really dont agree with gay adoption, but it is simply not up to any of us. i personally am ok with gay marriage and adoption, i think that you love who you love and nothing can change that. so if those two people were in love and were able to take care of a child then why not let them be happy.

[brittneeskidmore]

Okay, I give up.

[War_Eagle]

I sincerely apologize if I've made you feel like I have judged you.

Yeah, how unreasonable of me to think that you were judging me when you said:


it doesn't matter what you say or how adequately you say it, he's not even willing to consider the points you've made. If you don't have his standards for living, you may as well have none at all.
I promise, the best thing to do is pretend his Reply doesn't exist.

Fortunately, not everybody here is so inolerant of other opinions and as judgemental as you are.

[Jessica at Parenting.com]

Hi, everyone.

I understand that these are complex issues, but at some point I have to ask you to agree to disagree, accept apologies where they have been given, and move on.

Thanks.