View Full Version : Should states "make" kids get immunized?
03-25-2008, 07:33 AM
Should children be forced to be immunized in order to attend school?
I read this New York Times Article and found it very interesting!
Public Health Risk Seen as Parents Reject Vaccines
Will Measles and Mumps make a comeback? Are people who rejected the immunizations going to regret it? Are they endangering the rest of us?
04-12-2008, 12:27 AM
I absolutely do not think that parents should be forced to immunize, any more than anyone else should be forced into doing any other medical procedure. All medical decisions we make carry risks and benefits and it should certainly be up to each parent to decide what is best for their own child!
My son had seizures after his 4 month shots, the Dr. said it wasn't a reaction I believed him, after his 6 & 9 month shots he got really bad eczema, again doctor said it's not the shots, after his 12 month shots he quit breathing and nearly died and once again they denied it had anything to do with his shots, I lost faith in my doctors the day I nearly lost my son doing what I thought was best for him under their direction. Now I don't give him or my other baby shots and after researching the topic after he almost died, I wish I would have known then , what I know now. I thank god every day that my little boy is still here with me and that there was no lasting damage and I wish others would do the research themselves, start by reading "The Vaccine Book" by Dr. Sears.
In conclusion, no I do not think I should be forced to give my son shots that nearly killed him and I despise anyone who would argue otherwise.
04-12-2008, 08:17 AM
i absolutly agree with six! i actually know of two people who when they got their childhood vaccs, ended up disabled. the first is my moms neighbor. her son is 37 years old and has the mentality of a 5 year old not to mention he is blind and deaf and before his vac, he was completely normal. he got a polio vac (this was in the 60's) and a week later he went deaf, a few days later he went blind and after that his brain stopped devoloping. scary right. well the other is a mother at my sons school. i love her to death she is just the sweetest thing, she had a vac for mumps when she was 6 years old and ended up deaf. she is a wonderful woman who teaches the children in the school sign language and one of my good friends. some vaccines are good though. i get my children immunized. i refuse to get them flu shots, we had them once before and were all sick as dogs a few days later for weeks. there are also religions that do not believe in immunizations, they cant force them to get shots that is their believes, and they also cannot keep them out of the public school system either, that would be discrimination.
04-12-2008, 08:27 AM
however i do agree with the article too, if we dont get our kids their shots, what risk is there to the public. i certaintly dont want my son to go to school with someone who has lets sy polio and god forbid there is an outbreak all because the parent didn't like the side effect sheet. if my son ended up with that disease, the parent had better have a good lawyer. but as far as shots like the flu shot or any experimental vaccine i will not do that and wouldnt force other parents either.
04-13-2008, 10:39 PM
I don't think we can have it both ways. We either have to decide to immunize all our kids or accept the consequences if these diseases make comebacks. After all, we have to care about all children, not just our own - don't we?
08-02-2008, 07:31 PM
Why would we regret our children getting mumps? Do the authors even have a clue as to what mumps is? That it's usually completely mild in children? That it's often completely without any symptoms? And that it gives a child lifetime immunity?
Rubella's the same. Bring 'em on! I want my kids to have lifetime immunity - vaxes sure don't give it.
And what about the fact that the MMR vaccine was cultured on aborted fetal cells?
08-04-2008, 02:51 PM
We should absolutely not be required to immunize our children. Did you know that the AMA assumes that if there are no signs of a reaction, outside of redness at the site and possible swelling, within 5 days of receiving a vaccination then it must be ok? Did you know that many of the vaccinations your child might receive have actually never been tested for possible reactions? It is our right to determine what will and will not be injected in the bodies of our children.
It took my husband and I 4 years to make the connection between my son's vaccinations and the pneumonia he kept ending up with. Within 1 week of receiving a set of vac's we were in the emergency room with a 104 degree fever and rounds of Rocephin. Of course, my ped denied the connection. So my 8mo girl has not been vaccinated and my old ped refuses to see us because of it.
If states require immunizations, you can rest assured it's because lobbyists of the pharmaceutical companies paid to have it that way and states, I'm sure, will get some kind of kick-back from the pharmaceutical companies just like dr's do.
If you don't want to have your child vaccinated the states/daycare's/schools will accept a waiver for religious, medical, or philosophical reasons.
08-05-2008, 04:55 PM
I vaccinate my DD but I don't believe parents should be forced to do so against their own judgement. I firmly support states not being allowed to interfering with our parenting choices.
I had mumps as a young girl - no big deal. I keep my DD current on all vaccinations, so hopefully that will protect her against anything she might be exposed to from unvaccinated children. I do believe vaccinations are a tool to fight against deadly disease; from our own history there were outbreaks of measles, polio, etc that killed so many babies, children, and adults. I believe it is for the betterment of society to take advantage of vaccinations against these illnesses.
However, it is the right of every parent to decide what is best for their child(ren) and I don't feel as though the state should be allowed to mandate vaccinations. My DD had no allergic reactions to any of her vaccinations, but that certainly doesn't convince me that no other child has adverse reactions. I don't know if vaccinations cause autism, but I know some parents out there believe they do. They should be allowed to choose what they feel is best for their family.
Even with vaccinations, my DD came down with the roto virus about 2 mos after her vaccination. I can only imagine how bad it would have been without the vaccine - she was horribly ill for days. It was too long after the vaccine for me to think it was the cause; and 3 other children came down with it at her DC. 2 of them were unvaccinated and were hospitalized due to it. I knew with from that situation we would always stay current on vaccinations.
08-07-2008, 04:51 PM
I have had my kids get all of their vaccines at the right times, and will probably continue to do so, and I don't honestly know how I feel about people being forced to do so. But something I didn't know until this week when I registered my oldest for his first year of school is that Iowa Law mandates that all kids entering school have all of their shots up to date. The Student Handbook lists that they must have DTP, Polio, MMR, Hep B, and Chicken pox. Really, to chicken pox is one of the shots that I would rather have them not get. My cousin got it done when she was little, when it was a newer shot, and then in JH got an actual case and was miserable. There were several in her class that had had shots and ended up with the ch.pox. I know there are people who will disagree with me, but I'm with nataliehannah on this one. It's one of the diseases I'd rather have my kids get it over with and be immune for the rest of their lives.
09-13-2008, 06:34 AM
I don't think the state should mandate vaccines. None of my 3 boys are vaccinated. I totally think it's a personal choice. My reason for not vaccinating is the risk factors in both my and my DH families. Caslinga said we have to "care about all children not just our own". I agree. However, if in your family history you have disfunctions, disabilities or even death linked with the vaccines, I find it hard to believe anyone would be thinking about any one elses child at that point. I know looking at my brand new baby, I would cry thinking of what might happen. I read and read and finally decided not to vaccinate. Personal choice. I would not force my opinion down anyone's throat. It is a very personal decision.
11-27-2008, 09:57 PM
If vaccines do what they claim then there should be no risk to any immunized child, should there? They shouldn't be able to contract the disease even if it appears . Wouldn't children who are immunized be more of a threat to those who are not, as they may carry it?
03-16-2009, 04:54 PM
This doesn't have anything to do with child vaccines...but just think about what they're doing...and if they're doing this to child vaccines, too.
There is a "patch" birth control that has been recalled. It has not been taken off...it is still be prescribed. Why haven't they taken it off? My sister's pediatrician told us that to take it off of the drug market, they have to get so many people to let them run tests to see the side effects..who would want to do that. The number of people they needed was some where around 100,000. Knowing that there are side effects, who would want to do this? Exactly why it is still on the Drug Market. Did you know that Contraceptive Pills (birth control) is also a cause of Breast Cancer??
I have a cousin who has many speech and mental disabilities. Due, to this my aunt has researched her heart out..and has found that many vaccines have MERCURY in them. Mercury has been proven to cause Autism. Do you really think children are just born with Autism and speech disabilities? I really dont. I think they develop it when we inject HOW MANY vaccines before they are even a year old. Think about it...how often doyou go to your pediatrician a month...even a year..before yrou child is a year old...and how many different shots do they get?
Another interestign fact..Small pox? The vaccine for small pox was created AFTER small pox disappeared, then they started saying oh, you don't want to get small pox..and started injecting people with this vaccine..and then peopel who got the injection..GOT small pox. Does this make sense? No, not to me.
Doctors also say the HVP shot only leaves a red mark and a sore arm..did you know that poeple have been PARALYZED from this shot?
It's pretty interesting what you find out when you do your research!
A VERY good website to go to: www.mercola.com. Many good articles on vaccines. DO YOUR ReSEARCH before injecting and unknown substance into your child's body!
I know that I will not have my child vaccinated. And I DO NOT think they should make anyone get vaccinated.
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